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and on current tv this is "the bill press show." >> bill: >> bill: rick snyder from michigan has declared war on working families, and working families have to fight back. what do you say? good morning everybody. it's a wednesday morning december 12th. so good to see you today. welcome, welcome to the "full-court press." coming to you life across this great land of ours from our studio on capitol hill in washington. d.c. great to see you today. we are also live on our -- your local progressive talk radio station and, of course on sirius xm this hour only in addition to current tv. we have a lot to talk about today. yes, in michigan, it is war. governor snyder sign that right to work legislation here in wablth wablth. accusations back and forthshington, d.c.. accusations back and forth that no progress is being made on avoiding the fiscal cliff, and yet there are rumors behind the scenes, both sides are getting closer to an agreement, especially an agreement on higher taxes for those who have done the very very well in this economy, those at the highest in
outrage on the steps of the statehouse over right to work legislation that governor rick snyder says he will be signing when it reaches his desk likely tomorrow. joining me now nbc's ron mott live in lansing. ron, what is the latest, and how did this come to a head so quickly in michigan? >> reporter: it came together very quickly, andrea. good day to you. it's a cold day out here, but these folks are very fired up. they don't like the way that this legislation was pushed through the statehouse here. they believe that this was a republican strategy to go through a lame-duck session. they know they've got a little more democratic leaning legislature coming here next month, and they figure that this was the most opportune time to push this legislation through. a very small window of time to actually debate the issue, and then as you mention, tomorrow governor snyder is expected to sign this into law, making michigan the 24th right to work state. i spoke with the head of the chamber here in michigan just a few moments ago. he says that this is actually not only good for the worker, but als
to what michigan governor rick snyder had the temerity to say on "morning joe." listen to this. oh. we appear to not have that. we seemed to suggest this morning that for some reason this was good for workers. how is right to work -- >> nothing could be further from the truth. basically what he has done is blind sided a lot of folks up there in michigan. and it's not good for workers in that workers will be able to benefit, they don't have to join a union. but now they'll be getting representation for better benefits and better wages. and not presenting any kind of dues to pay for that representation. and that's a deliberate effort, martin, to destroy unions. we see it here in the congress. i've seen it in my own committee. there has been a march by our republican colleagues to do everything in their power to destroy and weaken unions. and this is just another effort in that road. and i think people have to see this for what it is. you know, keep in mind that governor snyder said he was not going to get involved in this because he thought it would be divisive. and right after this elec
senate passed last week arks coringed to the associated press. republican governor rick snyder is expected to sign that bill into law. too would make michigan the 24th state to approve a right to work law, which exempts employees in a union workplace from joining or paying dues to that union. meanwhile, pro-union protesters are swarming the michigan capital building in lansing in scenes reminiscent of the battles over union rights in wisconsin and in ohio last year. david corn, we -- the president has sort of -- was in michigan yesterday, and bundled this into a bigger message about the middle class, working americans. is this a good time for republicans to be on the side -- well, against workers rights in the context of this broader conversation we're having? >> you know, we shall see here because they clearly have the votes and snyder says he is going to do this. you see the response. you saw the response in wisconsin. their walker survived the fight. i assume this will be as big, if not bigger, and the uaw, of course, the unions are even stronger in michigan than they are in
michigan governor rick snyder says he'll sign them as early as tomorrow. nbc's ron mott is there. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey there, good day to you. i'm not sure about 15,000 number but there are still a lot of folks here. most of them have probably started making their away from the state capitol because the measures here to protest have come and gone. as you mentioned the house passing two measures of public and private unions. i came back from an interview with the governor and asked him about the timing of this. this is pushed through the legislature in a lame deck session. a few more democratic me believes headed here and i asked the governor why not just table it? let the bills come to the desk, veto it and come back in january and have a fuller debate if you will. his answer was essentially that they've had plenty of time to debate this issue. that he said organized labor put a measure on the ballot in november that failed at the ballot box by voters and something that was top of mind for folks in state of michigan and workers and union workers say it's unfair for nonme
for less. >> susan, supporters including republicans led by gop governor rick snyder maintain that this bill will wind up helping the economy and not hurting it, right. >> that's right allison. the governor insists that the right to work bill will save jobs and increase salaries by not forcing union dues on workers. here's michigan governor rick snyder. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >> susan, are we going to see more of the same this week? what kind of turnout are you expecting to see at michigan's capitol when lawmakers are expected to vote? >> a huge turnout is expected. some people are predicting 7,000 demonstrates, last week when supporters and protesters jammed the can toll. some people are talking about recall campaigns like we saw in wisconsin or even legal challenges, so we'll see what comes up. >>> in washington state, same-sex marriage is now legal and at the stroke of midnight couples started to getting married
. it was not enough to stop the legislation that rick snyder signed into law. despite the long history, the state is controlled by a republican-dominated house and senate. >> there 58 aye votes and 52 nay votes. >> therefore the bill is passed. >> michigan becomes the nation's 24th right to work state which schneider said opponents will have to get used to. >> worker choice is important and this will lead to more and better jobs. the bill signed and they can finish up and they can go home. >> michigan has the fifth highest percentage of unionized workers at 17%, its history is well-known. it's a blue state that obama won by points last month. they lost these fights just about everywhere else. democrats in right to work states have moved on. democrats in the state legislature have threatened further action. >> good ideas get debate and bad ones get rammed through with police protection in a legislature. i will say this. this fight is not over. >> it's unclear exactly what democrats and labor can do. critics say it could overturn the law that would require getting 258,000 signatures on the ballot.
governor rick snyder is expected to sign the bills on tuesday. >> i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. we have hard-working people in michigan. this is about giving workers choice. david: what does all this mean for the workers, for businesses and for the unions? joining us is michigan state senator patrick kulbec. thanks for coming in. i appreciate it. let's say what right to work laws are not. they not about outlawing unions. a lot of union workers have said, these right to work laws would outlaw, they're only about not forcing people to pay the unions if people don't want to, right? >> that's exactly it. collect tiff bargaining still stays in place. all we're talking about is giving workers a choice whether or not they want to financially compensate a union via union deals. david: why do you think the bills are necessary? >> for me we looked at the state of michigan and only state in the nation that lost population in the last census. i went off and did analysis and charted looking where everybody is going? when you look at the census data by almost three to on
of demonstrators state troopers with tear gas and batons stand at the ready. governor rick snyder vowing to sign the right to work legislation as soon at it hits his desk. the measure means employees will decide for themselves whether they want to join and financially support a union the governor says that could create more jobs, others are worried that the legislation could weaken the union's power and lead to lower wages for everyone. >> it is a big deal because what they want us to do, they want to reduce workers down to working for less. it is not about, more jobs. the jobs are going to be there. about what conditions you work under. we want to basically work, rite to work and have benefits and feed the middle class like we were. and this legislation is trying to reduce the middle class even further. rick: the fight in michigan has big national implications for organized labor as it is poised to become the 24th state with right-to-work laws. those states that have that legislation in state, 13 have jobless rates lower than the national averages. mike tobin is live in lansing. mike, a lot of
know this was a surprise to some in michigan because governor rick snyder did a bit of an about face on this issue. >> reporter: and some are accusing the governor of really pushing this issue through the state house, and clearly they're not happy with it. you can see how unhappy those opposed to this bill are, just looking at the sheer number of demonstrators who came out last week and are expected to come out this week. thousands are expected to come out between today and tomorrow. president of one teachers union who we spoke with put it this way. she said, you know what, never in a million years did i ever think that michigan would ever become a right to work state, that michigan was built on unions, and you know what, she has a point there. unions have really been the backbone for workers in this state, especially when you look at the auto industry. 17.5% of the workers in this state are unionized. it's one of the highest rates in the country. and if this law passes, ted, politically it could be a huge blow to unions, not just here in michigan, but across the country as well. als
the latest on governor rick snyder's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. constitutional law professor jonathan turley has all the details. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the middle class tax cuts. the president is also taking time to be festive this holiday season. meantime, john boehner doesn't sound so merry. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> bo
a pair of bills were signed into law by governor rick snyder who appeared on msnbc's "morning joe" today. >> i believe this is pro-worker. because the way i view it is workers now have freedom to choose. this does not deal with organizing at all. this does not deal with collective bargaining at all. this has nothing to do with the relationship between an employer and a union. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> let's dig in right now. >> good ideas get debated and bad ones get rammed through with police protection in a lame duck legislature. but i will say this, mr. speaker. this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the presidenti
. the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is going to pay the u.s. a $1.9 billion penalty for breaking u.s. sanction laws. they have transferred money through every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, fraud on wall street. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every s
it was in 1950? 1.8 million. rick snyder is trying to do try to draw some of this business back here and get numbers back up. matt that goes to the point you were making there. that union worker we just heard, the woman, african-american woman, what this means you can work alongside a union member and not pay union dues and still get the benefits of the union. now, steve, is she right? >> no, she's wrong. look, i think it is in the first amendment of our constitution says the right of association, right? you have the right to associate with a union if you want to but, right of association also means you have the right not to associate with that entity. this is basically saying every worker makes their own choice. it doesn't say you can't have a union. i want to be very clear about this. when the unions say it is anti-union. it is not. simply says every worker has the choice. i talk to a lot of owners of businesses and ceos of companies, bill the one of the things, i asked them about right to work and what they tell me is, when they're looking where they will open up a new plant or facility,
. similar battles have boiled over in indiana and wisconsin. republican governor rick snyder is a reluctant supporter of the legislation. >> i'm not happy about being in this situation but given it's here i'm going to do what's best for the citizens of michigan my customers. >> reporter: the republicans will take final action on the bill today. governor rick snyder pledged to sign the legislation. back to you. >> elaine quijano thank you. >>> the president was in michigan to rally support for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff and with just 21 days left until the deadline, a new gallup poll shows most americans want congress to compromise on spending and tax cuts. 70% say republicans and democratic leaders should make a deal now, up eight points since last week. major garrett is at the white house covering the fiscal talks. good morning. >> reporter: good morning and good morning to our viewers out west. one thing has been agreed upon in the fiscal cliff talks, not to discuss the details. many look at this bipartisan silence and see an encouraging sign but white house and congressional sour
. once that happens, it's expected to go to governor rick snyder's desk. he is expected to sign it, despite the fact that he did have an hour of intense meetings with democratic congressional delegation from here yesterday where they were asking him to veto this decision or at least delay the decision. he said he would consider their concerns but the likelihood is, if that bill reaches his desk, he will put his signature on it, zoraida. >> we're looking at video right now. we see a little bit of police presence there. they're expecting 10,000 unionized workers to show up today. do they have some security measures in place? >> oh, yeah, they definitely do. you're seeing road closures around the capital. there are parking restrictions in place. you know, if last week is any indication when thousands of people descended on the capital, today aets expected to be even more intense because we're getting closer and closer to that final approval, yes. we've seen even yesterday when i was out here, police were getting ready for what the onslaught of demonstrators are to bring. lots of barri
collecting fees from non-members. mike towbin has more on this. >> they cannot stop what governor rick snyder calls freedom to work legislation from being passed on tuesday because michigan republicans simply have the numbers. the demonstrations have gotten ugly. eight people have been arrested. additional state troopers have been diploid to the capital. unlike drawnout labor standoffs we have seen in years, rick snyder has been able to slam us through the legislature during the lame duck session. he insists he is not picking a fight. >> it is not picking a fight. i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. >> this does not mean that michigan democrats are about to throw in the towel. they say it is an understatement to claim that this legislation will face legal challenges. they will challenge the manner in which a legislation was pushed through so rapidly. democrats claim republicans in michigan have pulled every trick in the book. >> they have lied to us every step of the way. >> he says this is leadership. >> that is baloney. >> michigan republicans say that this legislation doe
. it's a replay of what happened in wisconsin. governor rick snyder, backed by the koch brothers is attempting to bust unions in the state where the modern labor movement began. on thursday, michigan republicans rammed through right-to-work legislation. it prohibits paying union dues as a condition of employment, but won't apply to existing union contracts. the bill is expected to pass next week. this is a complete political stealth attack by governor snyder. he never campaigned on a right to work law and the bill passed with little or no debate. that's what is infuriating people. republicans used a dirty trick to avoid a recall vote on the law. they included spending in the bill because laws with spending can't be overturn bade citizen vote such as a referral. so this sneak attack on labor has people in michigan absolutely outraged. took a lot of calls on it on the radio show. protesters stormed the capital on thursday. police used pepper spray on protesters and eight arrests were made. meanwhile, governor snyder claims his right-to-work law isn't bad for unions. >> i do not vie
: james. >> a hit to michigan governor rick snyder he would sign right to work legislation soon on his desk. anyone in in america should be able to choose to support a union and choose not to. >> that's big news, potentially for economically in michigan, and means a lot more companies might be willing to locate in michigan. and remember, if you have your own hit or miss, please send it to us at jer@foxnews.com and follow us on twitter@jer on fnc. that's it for the show and thanks to my ponl and all of you for watching, i'm paul gigot, we hope to see you here next week. >> on fox news watch. >> coach ryan,'s got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. the same problem the republicans are having. who is the quarterback, mr. president. >> the quarterback on the democratic side is the president of the united states. he keeps throwing interceptions and we're moving backwards and backward and backward. >> jon: congress doing battle over the budget. republicans say they want to cut government spending and democrats say they want to do all they can to push the president's plan, but is his plan
governor rick snyder is doing, fundamental change for michigan to make it more like a state like virginia. 23 other states that are right to work states. if they compete for work they got, and the idea might be better. it could be good for state of michigan, if painful for a few people for a while. >> eric: so many car companies say we like to do business in america. freddie addressing the fiscal cliff in detroit is going to mercury to address global warming. it's hot there. only obama could declare the auto bail-out a success. that is like hurricane sandy is a mess. the only successful expert is people. they are greating the hell out of there. going back to people like snyder, obama is happy to take the money from the rich. both won't take advice from people are rich. he doesn't want to learn how to fish. he just wants to take the fish. >> bob: detroit has been in trouble for a long time. right to work. here the unions collectively bargain, great rates. they allow scabs in there and take advantage of the money. >> eric: you just made the case for busting up the union there. detroit has b
a union stronghold into a right-to-work state. the republican governor rick snyder says he'll sign the measure. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages to work. we'll be right back. . >>> we're back. >>> we're back. of all of the memorable lines this year, and there were many, which ones proved to be the most notable? well, for the seventh year, fred shapiro has released his infamous list for the top ten quotes. they are certainly some of the most memorable lines spoken this year. which ones will stand the test of time? you be the judge. come sit through a few of them. we've got eugine roberts. washington bureau chief for mother jones, both are nbc political analysts. here we go. let's look at this one. let's start with a memorable moment from the spring while we were still in the middle of a tough primary fight that pushed romney to the far right. the question many were asking was could he pivot back to the center in the general election. and then this happened. the numbe
right to work state. >> right to work is wrong! right to work is wrong! >> rick snyder signed two right to work bills into law after they were pushed through, the statehouse democrats in michigan insisted their fight is not over. >> good ideas get debate and bad ones get rammed through with police protection in a lame duck legislature. i will say this. this fight is not over. >> joining me now a radio talk show host michael smerconish and inside michigan politics. michael, i will start with you. you have a number of labor leaders out and they are putting boots on the ground in states like pennsylvania where they are preparing to square off against republicans in a sense of pay back for what we saw in michigan. >> right. you take a look at the pennsylvania legislature controlled by republicans. so too is the governor's mansion and you can say the same about ohio. the take away here is if it could happen in michigan, it can probably happen in a host of other states that are in the rust belt or the midwest. not just sunbelt states where unions have been on the ropes for years. the ripple e
important union strongholds in the country, michigan. michigan's governor, rick snyder, moments ago, signed right to work legislation into law. now, the new law sharply limits union power, something once unthinkable. hundreds of protesters packed inside the capitol building for the vote. trooper on hand in riot gear. michigan, home of the most powerful union in the country, a symbol of union power and dominance for generations. not anymore. workers are no longer to give up part of their paycheck to union dues. now, the unions didn't go down without a fight. literally. take a look at this, outside the state capitol. the moment the bill passed, things got violent. tents belonging to americans for prosperity, who were there to suppt the bill, torn down. one of the groups senior staff, steve, who is actually also a fox ws contributor was brutallyassaulted as he tried to prottect his staff. nuts. joining us now, thee most senior republican lawmaker who voted today, the house speaker, thank you for being with us today. this is monumental on so many levels. we have a michigan republican controlled
over and just show you what is happening now, wolf. this is outside of governor rick snyder's office. there has been a sit-in in the governor's office, a sit-in until the media was removed from the entry of the governor's office. so the debate is is not over but this is the law of the land, just a pen stroke away from being the law of the land here in the state of michigan. incredibly symbolic for this country and organized labor in america. >> all right. poppy is on the scene for us in lansing michigan. >>> here in washington, everyone's eyes are on the calendar. this friday, the house of representatives is supposed to break for the holidays. christmas is exactly two weeks from today. so when are we going to get a deal on taxes and spending cuts? our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is up on capitol hill. what are you hearing, dana? >> reporter: the senate majority leader who told me he's one of the biggest pessimists says he thinks it's going to be very difficult to get a deal done by christmas. meanwhile, republicans don't have a lot of opposition to raising the tax ra
,s supporting including reich sni rick snyder says it will make them more competitive. the home, if you will, the unofficial home, of the labor movement, is now a right-to-work state. that's going to make for an interesting 2014 state campaign there. >>> the final race of 20912 election set for tomorrow thanks to the crazy ways louisiana does things. they have a run-off for a congressional race. it's a battle pitting the newly redrawn third district. it's republican versus republican there. >>> well, good news on the jobs front. helping to boost the markets at the opening bell. we've been telling you the november jobs report showed 146,000 jobs added for the month. top estimates all over the place by more than 50% tempering the optimism a bit, though, downward revisions both in september and october showing employers added 49,000 fewer jobs than originally estimated. well, we'll have the gaggle here early. get their take on the jim demint surprise, the bizarre -- well, it's less than bizarre but it was sort of like a ptsd from the romney campaign. much more. [ man ] ring ring... progresso th
the controversial right to work legislation that the governor there, rick snyder, sparked this political firestorm when he announced last week he'd sign a bill requiring workers to financially support unions. it could happen tomorrow. moments ago you and your michigan colleagues gave a news conference on this. are you concerned this is going to turn into another messy situation similar to what we saw play out in wisconsin last year? >> here's what i'm concerned about with right to work. is that, number one, it'll end up cutting wages and benefits for middle-income workers who really need the money right now. they're still struggling with under water mortgages, with their kids facing all the student loan debt that i've been fighting to reduce, and also our middle-income families, when they have enough money to take care of themselves, spending that money actually stimulates the economy. so right to work is wrong. everyone who benefits from union representation should at least pay their fair share for that. >> sir, thanks so much. democratic congressman from michigan, hansen clarke. >>> i want to pa
. the story is governor rick snyder, republican governor, hard to believe now but when he was elected he was celebrated by the national media as the anti-tea party republican. campaign as a nerd, not so much ideological. he wasn't going to do the kinds of things in michigan that john kay sich was doing in ohio and the turning point when labor in michigan tried to put a constitutional amendment -- put a constitutional amendment on the ballot out there he took as an affront and he snider in response is receptive to this legislation but i think what's interesting to watch here just quickly in the next day is this. a group of democratic congressmen and leaders of michigan met to meet with snyder. the approval rating is not high. facing re-election in what's a blue state in 2014 and basically said, look, this is a huge political mess for you. you are taking incredible flack from supporters like the detroit news, newspapers. here's the way out for you. one of two things. this bill's going to pass the legislature tod legislature tomorrow and they put in appropriation to be exempt from referendu
for more people. >> ifill: republican governor rick snyder agrees the law will help the state. he has promised to sign it. snyder greeted president obama when he traveled to michigan today but there was no indication that they discussed the right-to-work issue. the president was later cheered when he visited an engine assembly plant outside detroit. >> these so-called right-to-work laws they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> ifill: 23 states have laws on the books banning the mandatory collection of union dues. in wisconsin republican governor scott walker turned aside a recall vote after he curtailed collective bargaining for public employees. voters later repealed an ohio law to reduce collective bargaining. michigan lawmakers are scheduled to vote on the right-to-work law tomorrow. union supporters planning for large-scale protests, cement the weekend in civil disobedience training. now, for more on the behind-the- scenes debate over right to work, we're joi
. >> michigan democrats make a last-ditch appeal to governor rick snyder to stop his sneak attack on workers. congressman gary peters was in the meeting. he joins me, along with cindy estrada of the united auto workers, next. >>> there is a big announcement from the white house on immigration reform. i'll have the details ahead. >>> and your vacation to the moon may not be out of reach. a private company will offer space travel in 2020. >> it could change space travel forever. >> astronomer derrick pitts of the franklin institute will tell us why the concept isn't so out of this world. when you give a child a toy, it has to work. ♪ make just one someone happy and when it's a toys for tots child, well, what could be more important? so this year, every hasbro toy donated to toys for tots will be powered by duracell. happy holidays. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. duracell with duralock. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cut
stronghold into a right-to-woshlg state. the republican governor rick snyder says he'll sign the measure. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages to work. we'll be right back. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride, go fishing or just lay in the sun. we've got coastline to explore and wildlife to photograph. and there's world class dining with our world famous seafood. so for a great vacation this year, come to the gulf. its all fabulous but i give florida the edge. ri
governor rick snyder will talk with andrea mitchell this afternoon right here on msnbc 1:00 p.m. >>> joining me now, the tuesday political power panel assembled, assistant managing editor of "time" magazine and ron reagan and republican strategist john. we watch this, we have seen what the president has given in his basic last stand against what's taking place right now. the president is going out there saying this is not about economics. this is more about politics. >> well, i think it's about both, to be honest. if you look at the labor chair of the spy in this country, it has been shrinking for decades. and, you know, in some ways to the extent that unions are viewed as contentious, problematic organizations, we've got the unions we deserve. if when you work with them in other countries like germany, you get more cooperative unions. so i do think that the destruction of unions in this country has been one of the main reasons that the labor share of the pie has been shrinking. that's problematic to me. >> john, from the right, can you explain why it looks like to the casual
governor rick snyder had in the past said right to work with a difficult advice sif issue but plans on signing the legs into law making michigan the 24th right to work state. bob king is president of the united autoworkers. scott hager strum is michigan state director for americans for prosperity. let me show you with the governor said earlier today when he was a guest on "andrea mitchell reports." >> the way i viewed it, it's on the table, it's a hot issue. let's show some leadership so i stepped up to say when i review it, i think it's a good thing. it's about being pro-worker, giving freedom of choice to workers, secondly in the earlier report, it's about economic development. we will get more and better jobs coming to michigan because we're going to be more competitive. it's important to make a distinction with wisconsin and ohio. that was about collective bargaining. that was about the relationship between employers and unions. this has nothing to do with that. right to work with about the relationship between the union and workers, and this is about being pro-workers, giving w
legislature to send two bills which would weaken unions to the desk of the state's governor. that man, rick snyder, has promised to sign them perhaps by tomorrow. ironically in a building named after mitt's father, george romney, who according to buzz feed opposed right to work laws, unlike his son. but governor snyder tells an dia mitchell moments ago that this is about helping workers. >> i think it's a good thing. it's about being pro-worker. it's about giving freedom of choice to workers and secondly as was mentioned in the earlier report, it's about economic development. >> that's what we describe as a crack burger. the president stated on monday what actually will happen. >> these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what the they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining us now is julian epstein, a democratic strategist, and dr. james peterson, an associate professor at lehigh university and a contributor to thegrio.com. welcome to you both. julian, you spent a considerab
!" at republican governor rick snyder. late today he signed the bill. for more, we're joined by micheline maynard, a contributor to forbes.com and former detroit bureau chief for the "new york times," and by bill ballenger, editor of "inside michigan politics." welcome to you both. mickey maynard. first, this has all happened very quickly. what precipitated this right now. >> there were two things that happened, judy. first of all in november there was a ballot proposal that unions floated that would have outlawed right-to-work. it would have put that into the state constitution. that proposal failed because it was proposed at the same time as a lot of constitutional amendments. people just sort of cast one vote against all of them. the second thing that happened was republicans gave up some seats in the house and senate. it will still be a republican majority in january but it will be smaller. if right-to-work was going to happen this lame duck republican-controlled legislature was where it was going to happen. >> woodruff: bill, in a state that voted by ten points for president obama in novembe
, republican senate, republican governor rick snyder has changed his position. he now supports right to work. what are you chances of stopping it? >> well, i don't think our chances of stopping it legislatively are particularly good. you know, it's a remarkable thing where we have a governor who campaigned as a moderate who has said for over two years that this issue is too divisive for michigan. now he's its biggest fan. either he was lying when he called it too divisive or he is by his own admission an extremist who's pushing an agenda that's too divisive and too extreme for our state. >> right now as i understand it the entire michigan federal delegation, house and senate, those folks are meeting with governor snyder. could that change anything? >> well, i have heard that they're meeting with him. we'll have to see what comes of that discussion. >> let me play devil's advocate here and just talk about the specifics of this. supporters say that this is going to help the state attract and keep businesses. they often point to auto suppliers, for example. are they right about that? >> no. the
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